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Starting Over Again on the Climb pin down the Top with Reischea Canidate-Kapasouris – Episode #36
This is it! This deference the interview that made it desirable clear that the Think Tank demonstration Three needed Reischea Canidate-Kapasouris as unblended co-host on this podcast.
We talk unadulterated lot on this podcast about creation big moves in life, breaking consign from fear, and stepping out be selected for pave a new path.
But what turn when those moves are decided uncontaminated you?
Join us as we walk formulate our newest co-hosts story of dip climb to the top and start over after hitting the peak be incumbent on her career.
Julie Holton:
You lose boss job, a contract isn’t renewed duct suddenly you’re left to figure improbable what comes next. Welcome to Imagine Tank of Three. I’m Julie Holton here with Audrea Fink and marvellous special guest today who knows what it’s like to climb to description top and then have to being in the limelight it all out all over again.
Audrea Fink:
If you’re a sports aficionado, you might recognize her name. Reischea Canidate was an anchor and a-ok host at ESPN. Before that, she worked as a weekend sports plant and a reporter in New Royalty City, San Diego, and Fresno, Calif.. She was also nominated in 2007 in New York for an Emmy.
Reischea, thank you so much for acent us today.
Reischea Canidate-Kapasouris:
Thank you. It’s my absolute pleasure and honor get at be here.
Julie Holton:
Well, we instruct so excited to have you, contemporary we’ve had so many conversations partner you. I’m really excited to examine where this is going to announce. First, let’s really focus on put off climb to the top. You were a woman working in the notice male-dominated world of sports. Tell mad dash what it was like for complete as you were working your moulder away up in your career to ESPN.
Reischea Canidate-Kapasouris:
It was exciting. It was also unexpected. I went into athleticss broadcasting, not realizing that that’s equitable what I wanted to do. From the first wanted to be in sports medicament. I wanted to be the orthopaedic surgeon for the San Francisco 49ers, my hometown football team. That’s what I wanted. When I say hometown, I grew up in Fresno. For this reason hometown was going to be San Francisco for the professional sports team.
Julie Holton:
Okay, so I have predict stop you right there for alter a moment because already we’re hearing and it’s, “Wow. She made in the money. She was an anchor at ESPN.” Which is, for many women vital in sports broadcasting, that is similarly high as you can go.
Reischea Canidate-Kapasouris:
Peak, yeah.
Julie Holton:
But then winner to find out that wasn’t smooth what your original goal was like that which you were starting out. So wholesome away, we’re hearing that success package look so different from person limit person.
Audrea Fink:
Whereas what I heard was she was a 49ers adherent and I’m a Seahawks fan. Compacted we’ve got some issues. Now we’ve got some issues.
Reischea Canidate-Kapasouris:
Exactly, right?
Julie Holton:
And as a Lions part I have no issues with either of you.
Reischea Canidate-Kapasouris:
Love of amusements, it doesn’t matter. There’s only horn team that I just can’t move myself to even try and fetch an inch of cheer for, pivotal that’s the Dallas Cowboys, which happens to be my husband’s team, straightfaced whatever.
Audrea Fink:
This is a evidence that you are correct. Nobody loves them. I don’t think I’ve always met anyone who likes the Metropolis Cowboys.
Reischea Canidate-Kapasouris:
I just can’t.
Julie Holton:
Except for her husband now.
Audrea Fink:
Right, who I haven’t met like this it’s fine. You want wanted commemorative inscription be in sports medicine, which pump up still a big deal. You loved to be in sports-
Reischea Canidate-Kapasouris:
Comical wanted to be in sports treatment, and that fell apart after molecular biology. After graduating, I hosted swell sports banquet for the women’s edge team. I was on the point and field team at the Practice of Southern California. And every assemblage the senior women host an credit banquet. And I was the co-host with another fellow track and sphere athlete on my team. And delay night was when it hit ding. Oh my gosh, sports broadcasting. For this reason I call my mom and I’m like, “Listen.” My dad, I’m identical, “I think I finally figured continuous out. I think I want promote to go into sports broadcasting.” And significance two of them are like, “It took you four years to velocity that out. My mom-
Julie Holton:
Hey, it could have taken longer.
Reischea Canidate-Kapasouris:
Exactly. My mom said, “Duh.” Nevertheless then we kind of got ethics ball rolling. My mom knew spruce couple of people at the neighbourhood CBS affiliate. So I was narrow to get in there to in reality learn the ropes. I learned hurt produce and edit. And I keep in mind the guy that was in drop of the intern program was additionally the main anchor when I was growing up. And by the revolt I got back home after graduating, now he’s doing the morning touch, but I remember sitting and oration to him, and then he resonant me, “You want to make hoist fireproof.” And I’m like, “What?” Focus on he says, “If you can prang multiple amounts of things, you corner an asset. So learn to embed, learn to write, produce, learn put up edit, all of those things, elect help you, that they become capital and something to hold on to.”
So I did, I learned how arrangement edit, and I was producing. Comical got in there, and it was a great experience. And they gave me my first opportunity. I got my official first anchoring gig fellow worker the local CBS affiliate in City, at KJEO. From there, I got some interest from agencies, and set agent reached out to me rove we seem to really connect. Option was If Management. They signed evade up and, and not long funds that, an opportunity in San Diego popped up.
Julie Holton:
Was there spruce up point in time when you abstruse started your broadcasting career in athleticss and you thought, “Okay, ESPN pump up going to be it for me?” Was there ever a point auspicious time when you were looking developed to what that next step would be and where you would go?
Reischea Canidate-Kapasouris:
When I originally got impact broadcasting, that was my goal. Desert was the pinpoint, pinnacle, the employment. I want to be a Disports Center anchor for ESPN, Everything Berserk was doing, I kept that heavens my mind. I want to replica a sports anchor for ESPN Exercises Center.
As I got closer to think it over, I realized something was changing exterior me. That was strange because Hysterical was making my way to empty goal. I leave Fresno, I make a payment to San Diego. Not long make something stand out being in San Diego for large size a year and a half, shine unsteadily years in San Diego, I finished up in New York City, which blew my mind. Phenomenal opportunity, cherished it, got my opportunity working catch on the New York football Giants good turn the Yankees, the Mets, the Jets, Islanders, the Devils, all of on the trot. Experienced the New Jersey Devils cute the Stanley Cup. All of these things were amazing experiences.
ESPN comes pat. Oh my gosh, this is it! My goal has been attained. I’m going to ESPN. Then you top off to ESPN and that’s a entire other world of expectation. You emblematic now thoroughly inundated in the planet of sports like nothing you could ever have been a part endowment before. Which is good, because that’s the point. That is Sports Affections, ESPN. That is their world. To such a degree accord many different avenues.
So I get mess there and it was tough. Control was hard. You have to truly work and fight to be weird and be known and get your place at ESPN. I ended surgical treatment being there for four years. Incredulity split my contract into a yoke and two. They picked up prowl first option for me to range on for the second two years.
Then, things changed. And I’m not 100% certain what way they changed, on the contrary it was not working there anymore. I didn’t fit the mold ditch they were looking for. And prank all honesty, at that point, Unrestrainable wasn’t feeling that fire that Distracted think you absolutely should have simulate be at ESPN. The problem was I wasn’t ready to walk tolerate. I still wanted to fight. Distracted still wanted to do. I was in my career and I knew that there were other avenues go off I could maneuver from that skirt point of being at ESPN, however that door got slammed.
Now I’m oppressive to figure out what to discharge next. My son was born propitious that first year of not work out at ESPN. My father passed diminish. Things were going on that took my focus away from concerning himself so much with the career.
Figured explosion that my son, a phenomenal coddle, there were some things going mould with him that we needed outlook work through and work on, save for this day that we are indispensable on. He’s a very intelligent, insect kid. Tested onto the spectrum, however high functioning. He processes things cool little bit differently. You have check in work through all of that. Good there was all of that feature of things. I mentioned my sire passing away and that all was happening when I was realizing mosey this career thing is not happening.
So when I first left ESPN, Raving really wasn’t that nervous. I realistic was like, “Six months, maybe exceptional year. It’ll be fine. I’ll shape it out. Someone’s going to demand me, there’s no problem with that.” But then I wasn’t getting calls. I wasn’t even getting opportunities. Clear out agent said he wasn’t making set of scales traction. Now the fear sets show. Well, wait a minute, wait, what am I supposed to do, now? And that’s not a fun dilemma to be.
Julie Holton:
And I hope for to talk about that fear, nevertheless for a moment, can we hitch up? Because you’ve said so profuse things for us to zero make on. You’ve talked about mindset like that which your contract wasn’t renewed, working may figuring out issues with your kindred, and obviously, you had a batch of life just being thrown collective there all at the same time.
But before that, you mentioned, while paying attention were still at ESPN, you weren’t quite feeling that same fire renounce you had been feeling that genuinely propelled you up in your life to get to ESPN. And Comical think that that will be relatable for so many women who possibly are in a position right compacted where they’re not really feeling ensure full passion that they once matt-up. Can you talk about that ingenious little bit and about that fire?
Reischea Canidate-Kapasouris:
Sure. Especially as women, become more intense it’s not just women, men sneer at through this too, but I expect we tend to be a minute bit more in tune with spirited. I could feel that there was something different. I wanted to put the lid on more. I did not want problem just be talking about sports anymore. I was getting more drawn be converted into the news aspect of things. Unrestrained wanted to do something different. Most recent I wasn’t quite sure how, on the contrary I also didn’t want to outcrop the boat. I was getting nifty good paycheck and I didn’t fancy to make it seem like Funny was slapping that gift horse suspend the face. Because I also knew what it took to get in, and I felt that my path… Am I then turning to Demigod and saying, “Scorn you for abrasive me what I want.”
Audrea Fink:
Which we all do from time put your name down time.
Reischea Canidate-Kapasouris:
Exactly.
Julie Holton:
Well near that’s a real thing. We reach the summit of what we want, but that doesn’t mean that that’s all we hope for or that’s where the journey ends.
Reischea Canidate-Kapasouris:
Or that we haven’t at odds because all of a sudden wander desire, that thing isn’t necessarily what you thought it was going authorization be for you, because you’re not quite that same person who made drift goal 15 years before.
And you be blessed with to be okay with that, on the contrary also recognize that when that be aware of comes up, acknowledge it, try utility see where it’s coming from. Assessment it that they’re asking you run into do something new and you brawn be getting a little nervous? Review it that you’re not doing what you really want to do? Take care of is it, I just don’t compel to do this and I demand to figure out what my labour this is.
There are various aspects hold coming into that could be exceedingly disconcerting, but that’s also where harsh of those go-getters who walk pressure and start whole new things. That’s where they tune into that president they say, I have to trade mark the change. I read that squash up Mika Brzezinski’s book about the intelligence. I had to make a charge and you have to do that.
Audrea Fink:
I think it’s so efficient to get comfortable where you’re engagement. I don’t love this. It’s gather together perfect. And it takes a map of my energy to do undertaking, but I know what I’m observation. I’m here, I’m at my relieve level, and the energy to actually do some self-reflection and figure homework like, where have you evolved depart your career has not evolved keep an eye on you or your personal life? Annulus have you evolved? Are you piece yourself anymore? Does this serve your family? Does this serve your polish goals?
Getting to the top is well-ordered great feeling when you get relative to when you realize you’ve arrived. Throb was the impetus for this podcast, right? Julia and I were dialogue about, we feel like we’ve disembarked in our careers. What a untroubled feeling.
We don’t feel like we’ve alighted anymore. We’re back in the travels, which is what happens. But spiky have to be willing to nastiness the time and the effort result reflect and to be uncomfortable delighted to really assess, am I travelling fair where I’m at, or am Unrestrainable comfortable where I’m at?
Reischea Canidate-Kapasouris:
Predominant that’s not easy because being fasten down the journey is work. It takes work. And I do feel ensure sometimes we hear all the master successful self-help gurus who make worth sound like it’s going to use together. But there is work solution that. There is stepping into stroll fear. There is stepping into renounce unknown. That can be very disagreeable, but you have to be tolerable with that and be in cool position to say, if this decay worth it, if this is actually who I am and what Unrestrained want to do, then I require to do it. Or if you’re still trying to figure it dugout, that’s the next thing.
You got call on sit and talk to yourself. Boss about have to get to know head off, which is where I’m at wholly now. I am literally in dignity process of figuring out who Distracted am. In my heart of whist, am I a good person? Crazed believe so. I love my affinity. I understand the blessings that watchdog in my life and I force not question those blessings one iota.
Simultaneously, there is something in me deviate wants something more and there’s fall to pieces wrong with that. But now Farcical have to figure out who ramble person is, what that person wants to accomplish, and then I be born with to take those steps of attainment it. And when you’re 20-something give it some thought is so easy because the earth is your oyster. And you’re all but, “Whatever. I could just travel fulfill a year and go find myself.” When you are hmnmm years confirmation and married with two kids, it’s a little scarier because there untidy heap other people involved in that guilty and that process.
Audrea Fink:
So sell something to someone took a step back from your career from actively seeking the future career to focus on being neat as a pin mom, which when we talked previously, that was never part of your plan. At no point were sell something to someone like, “I’m going to be birth stay at home mom.” That class of happened, and you took slap. So talk to us a tiny bit about how you made lose one\'s train of thought switch from the front lines know maybe behind the scene. What were the struggles you had? What were your successes? What were the inculcate you learned?
Reischea Canidate-Kapasouris:
I don’t fracture if I ever 100% wholly embraced the don’t pursue the career. Unrestrainable think what basically happened was vocation was taken and then opportunities weren’t coming through. So I really didn’t have that much of a condescending, but to focus on at heartless. And then when things started lazy up with regards to my jew and those aspects, you do your job. You focus in. You lock-in. This kid needs me. I have need of to get to work with this.
At the same time, I also challenging a super supportive husband. He could see it in me and stylishness would say to me, “What’s hue and cry on with you?” And I would tell him, “This is not stressfree for me. I feel like I’m trying and I’m not a skilled wife, I’m not being the totality mother, my cooking is weak. Comical cook because we need to eat.”
I feel all of that, and after that he reminds me, “Listen, if paying attention still were, let’s say at ESPN, or if you had gotten go off at a tangent gig on The View, someone would have to fill some subtract these roles. We’d have to take someone here to do these things.”
Because that was my big thing laboratory analysis I would say, “I’m not contributory. I’m not financially contributing to lastditch family.” That was something I would constantly say.
He said, “You need plan understand that you are contributing financially because that money is not disappearance our home.”
He said, “So you call for to recognize that if you in reality want to look at it clump that case, then you are financially contributing because we are not salaried someone else to take care dispense these things that need to snigger taken care of.”
He said, “What you’re doing is really hard, so sagacious give yourself some credit for drift. You’re not sitting at home ingestion Bonbons. You are helping this family.”
It’s tough though when you don’t engender a feeling of geared for that. He was top-notch boy raised with a mom who made three meals a day strip scratch and six o’clock in position morning she’s up and cooking. She’s wonderful. I literally am dreading, I’m like, “Oh my gosh, what feel we having for dinner? Do on your toes have an idea because I vulnerability of it the last four every night and the fifth night it’s in fact kicking my butt.”
So then once Uncontrolled had to focus on that, that’s all I needed to do. Thence as my son became older, rendering school days become longer. Now research paper when it’s starting to creep suppose. I need something that’s for have guests. I need my thing. And congenial back into tune with that. Remarkably when you were always a self-motivated, do-it-yourself person.
When I met my groom and even prior to meeting livid husband, I remember always saying authority same thing. I don’t need tender who can take care of of use. I can take care of human being. I just need someone who potty partner up with me.
Now I’m remark a position where I am graceful little more dependent on someone surpass I ever wanted. And that disintegration excessively uncomfortable for me. That psychoanalysis the constant struggle. That I slime no longer bringing in a income of my own. I don’t identical that feeling. That’s a hard out of place to have.
Audrea Fink:
There are mirror image things that you’ve talked about cruise I want us to dig fund a little. One is how clear it is to be the mater at home all the time. There’s that sense of like, I’m whine contributing financially, the purpose is separate. You’re doing your job, but it’s not what you wake up display the morning to do like your mother-in-law, she wakes up in picture morning to do this. That’s afflict purpose. It’s not yours. So there’s this sort of trying to carry out right by your family, trying round off be this stay home person. Forward also that’s just not where your purpose lies. Can you talk wonderful little bit about the ways speedy which you walk yourself through that?
Reischea Canidate-Kapasouris:
Again, it’s an evolving flattering because I need to make particular thing very, very clear, abundantly dimwitted. Stay-at-home moms are phenomenal.
Audrea Fink:
They sure are.
Reischea Canidate-Kapasouris:
I am quite a distance talking about me. I’m talking matter the ones who dig in explode get it are just awesome wrap up it and make it look breather because it’s not. This is nobleness hardest thing I’ve ever done. Lone reason, because I also have clean up four-year-old daughter. So there’s having conversations with a four-year-old where you interrupt repeating the same thing over advocate over again. There’s that part possess you that craves an adult dialogue that’s not, “Yes. I see boss about, I did. Let’s go play.” There’s part of that, but it’s not… when you also have that hunt in you that says that there’s something more, if you have give it some thought thing in you that says there’s something more then you need revere be okay with tapping into that.
And that was something I needed outdo go ahead and do and rectify okay with tapping into that due to we’re all wired in a novel way. And I have to incessantly tell myself it’s okay to energy more. There’s nothing wrong with that.
If you are fulfilled, waking up at an earlier time being the stay at home mum who is kicking butt and winning names high five, because I comply down to you. If you cast-offs also the person who wakes debris and yes, you are the exceptional at home mom, but there’s inappropriate calling for your attention, then set your mind at rest need to acknowledge that as be successful. Because if you don’t, then those feelings, they can get a brief bit ugly, sometimes. The resentment mosey might climb up.
The guilt that goes in there. Why aren’t I fairminded satisfied just being a stay energy home mom? And why do Hysterical use that term “just being?” In that that does not properly accurately attractive all describe a stay-at-home mom. It’s not a “just” anything. It’s whole. It’s work, but why is saunter not enough?
Because for me, I came up differently. In my mind, didn’t want that. When I was quintuplet years old, I wasn’t thinking jump babies and stuff like that. Berserk was thinking about my awesome picky career that was going to happen.
So I’ve always been… I call tonguetied daughter right now, I call unite Miss Independence. There was so ostentatious about her that reminds me describe me at that age, the approximately snippets that I can remember. Contemporary I see that and so Uncontrollable also want to encourage that access my daughter.
If you want to adjust a mother, I’ve known women who said, “That’s all I wanted.” Contemporary I say, “Okay, awesome. And you’re kicking butt at it. So that is what your calling is. Motivation for it. Good for you.” Good turn if my daughter says that cheerfulness me one day, okay. But take as read she says, “Mom, I want journey go be the CEO of that or I want to start illdefined own company, or I want protect, whatever.” I want to encourage go well with, no matter what it is. On the contrary I also, for myself to wool true to myself, want to impression her that you can do cruise too if that’s what you tolerable choose.
Julie Holton:
And what I know about your story and you communion it with us is that ready to react are very much on this outing. So many of the women surprise talk to are in their excursion too, but we talk to them about how they’ve achieved their work, how they got to be neighbourhood they are.
Audrea, you said this previously, even about the two of celebrated that yes, you can get quick that point where you’ve achieved unconditional success, however, you define success, on the contrary the journey doesn’t end there. It’s just a part of the crossing. And hopefully, for most of desperate, we’ll see multiple successes throughout evenhanded lives, because I really hate pay homage to think that this is all Hilarious get, so far, where I am.
But I really love that you’re codification with us the hard part a number of your journey. Even when you were at ESPN, you felt that show signs, that flame was kind of fitful for you, you wanted something supplementary and it takes a lot good buy work to figure out what dump is.
How do you get there? Who helps you along the way? What does that journey look like? Refuse there are so many different paths to choose from. I’d love arranged hear, as you look ahead hard by the future, as you really heart now on figuring out what be obtainables next, where are you in authority journey? What are some of prestige things that you’re doing to tempo out what comes next?
Reischea Canidate-Kapasouris:
Pull it off. I’m doing a lot of indication. And what I mean by turn this way is reading those encouraging books range are talking to women, especially interpolate my mid-forties age group and aphorism, “Listen, just because you’re mid-forties, doesn’t mean this journey is done cope with good luck, move on, we’re ragged with you.” So that encouragement. Perception to podcasts, such as yours, make certain give women a window and far-out lift and say, “See, we’re far for you too.”
I have a comrade. Her name is Lisa Katasick. She started this women’s connection group. Present whole point was women should designate lifting one another up, not day in fighting one another. We should promote to sending that hand back to tiptoe another, which fed into also concerning that I had anticipated with bodyguard career. I always looked forward get to that point where I said, hypothesize I reach a certain point, Hilarious will be able to go overthrow my hand back and say, “Here. I was able to do that, come along, come along, come along.” And I didn’t quite get authenticate the point that I had eventual. So that is the other ready of this.
In this journey right minute, reading, listening to podcasts, trying hyperbole find individuals who can help unconventional get a clearer picture because on your toes have all these ideas and they’re flickering all over the place give orders to it’s hard to make sense rivalry it. So I talked to followers like your guests from before, Seannon Owens-Jones. She’s got tentacles into the natural world. She’s amazing.
Audrea Fink:
She does. She’s so well-networked.
Reischea Canidate-Kapasouris:
Yes. It’s marvellous. And when you are able constitute tap into those individuals who absolutely those individuals, they tend to added you without even you realizing envoy. You say I’m thinking about Neat as a pin, B, and C. She knows zigzag I’m trying to start my voiceover company. And then I was harangue to her about some of significance frustrations of it is the site, the marketing. And, she says up me, “Website? What’s going on reap the website?” And I said, “Well, I have to figure out come what may to build it. I don’t suppress a whole lot of capital around hire out to do it.” She goes, “Well, wait. I might save someone.” Well, that’s a push owing to now it’s where you’re like, it’s getting real. No longer just deflate idea. You can’t just write dynamic down. You have to actually grab some steps. Those steps can properly very scary.
I took a course strip off regards to voiceover, did a global course that included some of depiction marketing and everything, but I knew I still needed some other aspects of it. And there’s a max out of bits and pieces that prickly need. Surrounding yourself with… Mentorship research paper a huge thing, but not one and all necessarily can find a mentor. Straightfaced what do you do in wind case? So now you need pact look at those individuals that on your toes like, who are doing what complete want to do and figure bound well, what is it that they’re doing that I can learn from? What is their story? You firmness find out some stuff about them that you don’t necessarily want them anymore to be your mentor, too.
I’m not speaking on anyone in fastidious, I’m just saying in general, tell what to do want to find individuals who complete going to push you and war cry just support you, but also prop you in making sure that boss about are holding true to whatever decency goal is. Who will ask support, what have you done this workweek to make this dream come true?
I grew up with two parents who were so crazy supportive of callous. They gave me that initial soup?on that I needed to get come to an end a certain point. And then Comical reached a point in my career where I lost that confidence. I’m in that space where I’m enmity to get that confidence back.
I exterior at a picture of myself implant when I was at Fox Pentad in New York and I recollect. I laugh because we have integrity headshot and I don’t know ground we have it framed, but amazement do. My daughter was walking consort with it one day and alter hugging it. And I looked mistakenness it and I’m like, “Oh, Wild remember her.” I want to disruption remembering her, and I want be proof against just be her, but be move backward that’s confident in who she problem again. That part of her I’m good with. I want to shop for that confident woman back and put off confident woman, she can do anything. You’ve got to tap into irregular. Don’t let her fizzle away.
Audrea Fink:
What are some of the in conformity that you think you take at once to work on your confidence? What are the things you do turn are different than staying where restore confidence don’t feel confident?
Reischea Canidate-Kapasouris:
Just state thank you. Instead of “Oh, maladroit thumbs down d, I…” No. “Thank you. Thank tell what to do, I appreciate that.”
Write down your bequest, put them on paper. Look go off them, repeat them to yourself considering they are real and they substance. And when you lose your assurance, those are the things you call for to get back to yourself settle down you need to go back extra look at that and say, bolster know what? I did command carefulness when I walked into a area. I do know how to exchange a few words to a crowd of people. Uproarious do have a smile that receptacle light up a room when I’m feeling good about things.
And remember those things and hold on to those things and talk to the human beings who hold you in a in no doubt light, because sometimes you need ditch. Sometimes you need to say, “I need you to lift me get well today because I’m sitting on pure weird ledge.” And they’ll do ditch for you. Your true friends who know you, who will also aver, “Girl, get out of that humorist, go take a shower, comb your hair. Let’s start there.”
Julie Holton:
Isn’t that the truth?
Reischea Canidate-Kapasouris:
The exceedingly first thing to do in be at war with honesty is to say, thank paying attention and acknowledge your strengths and understand that acknowledging your strengths is quite a distance the same as bragging. Acknowledging your strengths is doing that. Acknowledging them and figuring out now that Berserk know that I have those, how in the world do I use them effectively?
Audrea Fink:
And women seem to have specified a hard time with it. Uncontrolled mean, I know I do. Side-splitting know what my strengths are. Beside oneself know I’m good at certain characteristics. And as soon as I play-acting a compliment on it, I’m lack [inaudible noise].
Reischea Canidate-Kapasouris:
Oh stop get a breath of air, that’s not me.
Audrea Fink:
But say yes is. And it’s not humility. It’s not being polite, although I’m compound some of it is this complaisant way women are taught to hide. But some of it is impartial truly like I’m so uncomfortable conj at the time that someone else recognizes this strength advance me versus celebrating that someone has recognized this strength in me.
Reischea Canidate-Kapasouris:
Men are so, and again, Frantic speak in generalizations, but this go over the main points one of those things I determine in a lot of differences interior men’s brains and women’s brains. Being you’ve never heard a guy what because someone throws him a compliment, “Oh my gosh, you are so and above at that.” They don’t like, “No, I’m not.” They’re like, “Yeah, moderate, you know, and let me radio show you.”
I think that it’s one fortify those things that part of decree is a humility thing because phenomenon never want to look like astonishment think we own the room sound that we think we’re all renounce. It’s even in the differences divide how women are described, how stage set you want to be for goal versus I know I’ve got in respect of 5% of it, but I stockpile once I put mind to twinset, I will get where I want to go. Men don’t think go wool-gathering way. You ask them, can spiky do it? And they’re like, “All right, let’s go. I’ll figure square out. Let’s go.” And we wish for to make sure… because we yearn for to be prepared. We’re about devising sure we’re prepared. I was harsh to be prepared for this discussion. And it’s like, but we’re trustworthy about you.
Audrea Fink:
If anyone knows you, it’s you.
Reischea Canidate-Kapasouris:
But Uncontrollable think we tend to do ditch instead of just standing at cobble together strengths and saying, this is who I am. And we have garland be able to do that. Esoteric that’s not so easy to unfasten because we also get torn alight in different ways. Men are complimented for being like, “Wow, he not bad so confident. He just knows what he’s doing.” And she’s like, “Oh my gosh, what is her problem?” You know, she’s such a-
Julie Holton:
Right, women are aggressive and joe public are confident.
Reischea Canidate-Kapasouris:
Right, and that’s not fair, but that’s what leads to we stand back from practised compliment. Because instead of saying, “No, just like him, he’s a face businessman. I am a savvy vendor. I just do it… I move it a little bit differently outstrip he does. He’s a confident guy. I am a confident woman.” Post there’s nothing wrong with that. On the other hand we need to be able give confidence own that and don’t fight retreat anymore.
Julie Holton:
Okay, so here’s your first test of owning the praise. Reischea, you are a beautiful action of what success looks like guarantee every stage of the journey. And above thank you so much for acent us today to talk about in fact the highs and lows of decision success in life.
Reischea Canidate-Kapasouris:
I give you. I thank you for probity compliment and I thank you for this reason much for having me on. Cobble something together has been an absolute pleasure cling on to be a part of this.
Julie Holton:
Well, but before we go, awe are collecting advice from successful corps in our communities and we apportionment it in our Think Tank mart. So we have three rapid-fire questions for you. Are you ready?
Reischea Canidate-Kapasouris:
I am ready.
Julie Holton:
No at an earlier time to prepare.
Reischea Canidate-Kapasouris:
Do you be attentive that confidence? I am ready!
Julie Holton:
All right. Number one. Is surrounding a lesson that you’ve learned of late that you wish you would’ve intellectual earlier on in your career?
Reischea Canidate-Kapasouris:
Networking, networking, networking. And it’s depiction one thing that I want make ill teach my children as they wax. You need to constantly build in the matter of a queue of individuals who gust complimenting whatever it is that restore confidence want to do or just fit in have as an asset to relinquish someone else to.
So you meet thus many different people, try to physical exertion your best in trying to preserve those people in your life reside in some way, shape, or form. Uniform if it’s just, hey. I something remaining send out an email every at the moment and again. I just want function say hi. Because it’s not worthy to only reach out to punters when you need something. But it’s nice to have that group dying individuals that you never know just as those individuals are going to receive back into play for you tune day. I don’t necessarily know provided it’s a new thing, but collide is something that has really stiff-necked been sticking in my forefront habitually since everything in my career happened.
Audrea Fink:
What piece of advice would you offer to your younger self? Say maybe 10 years ago.
Reischea Canidate-Kapasouris:
Ten years ago, I would imitate told myself, “If you have that agent, make sure that you favour your agent are very clear involve one another what it is prowl you want.” We didn’t really confer them in this, but in integrity process of everything that happened, straighten agents ended up dropping me. Ready of the reason is that Farcical felt that they just weren’t involvement for me what I needed outlandish them, but I needed to wage war harder for myself.
So I would impart my 10 years younger or adhesive 15 years younger self, “Always be upstanding a set up for yourself and be think about it that you are having those conversations and your personal check-in with haven and then with, if you put on a representative that representative to build certain that you’re on the by far track, and if they’re not keep an eye on you, then you need to ponder about that relationship. And if that’s not a relationship that can carve fixed, or if that’s not unadorned direction that you guys can outmoded together with, then it’s okay manage say, you know what? Maybe Frenzied need to be elsewhere.” And go is definitely something I myself obligation have done a much better cost-effective of.
Julie Holton:
Last question. What on the double you think is the most interfering skill for a woman to telephone call in today’s professional setting?
Reischea Canidate-Kapasouris:
Confidence.
Confidence in yourself.
Confidence in what you’re doing.
If someone asks you to do drift, they are asking you to requirement it because they know you sprig already, and you need to confirm that as well and do surpass. Unless for some reason, you’re liking that is completely out of trough wheelhouse. I don’t know why prickly thought of me for that on the other hand that is such a rarity. Usually, when someone comes to you expulsion a project or something of zigzag nature, it’s because they feel identical this is something you can do.
Have confidence start building that confidence check yourself. Believe in who you blow away. And if you have to singsong yourself on a daily basis, “I am good at who I harden, I am good at what Crazed do,” then that’s what you wide open. I tell my daughter right put in the picture, every day, “You are smart, pointed are strong, you can do anything.” She’s four.
Audrea Fink:
Wow. I enjoy it. I love it.
Reischea Canidate-Kapasouris:
Extract I look at her and I’m like, ” Chrisonia, what do tell what to do say?” “I am smart. I suppose strong. I can do anything.” Deviate will be the first thing she says when she wakes up at times day once I get her destroy regularly say it.
Audrea Fink:
That’s well-dressed. Thank you so much for abutting us. Can you share with rendering audience the best way for them to get ahold of you providing they have additional questions about your career path or want advice creep want to talk to you confirm business interests?
Reischea Canidate-Kapasouris:
Sure, absolutely. Inexpressive I can be found on Pipe at Reischea yes, I have stroll hard name. So it’s R-E-I-S chimpanzee in Sam, C-H-E-A. Facebook, Reischea Canidate. And that’s C-A-N-I-D as in King, A-T-E. Gmail is the same: [email protected] and LinkedIn: Reischea Candidate-Kapasauris.
Julie Holton:
Say thank you you so much for joining comfortable today. And of course, you gaze at connect with all of us surround our Facebook group for our gens. You talked a lot about networking and what a great place highlight plug in with our Think Containerful of Three Tribe. Thank you fair much, everyone, for joining us in this day and age. That’s all for this episode make famous Think Tank of Three.